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Simon M
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New wedge owner

Post by Simon M » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:40 pm

Hi all, I'm a newbie and am really pleased to finally covert from wanting to owning a wedge! I've bought a lovely vermillion Princess 2200 hls - I'd attach a picture but don't know how to, but the reg is xem 805w. As I'm in Dorset and it's in Scotland we have yet to meet in person, but fortunately a good friend checked it over and acted on my behalf... I'm travelling up in a few weeks for a holiday, so will hopefully be able to drive it back down with no problems! If any of you know any history (good or bad) I'd love to hear about it?!!

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Re: New wedge owner

Post by Gasman » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:35 pm

Welcome to the wonderful world of the wedge! This car was restored by Rovamota and Beiderbecke some years ago down south (Hampshire). I am happy to post pictures for you if you email them to us at leylandprincess@aol.com. In the meantime, this is what it looked like after that work:


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Martin
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Oldest known surviving wedge, hand-built 15th Pre-Production Wolseley in June 1974
Last Ambassador down the line in November 1983, Austin Ambassador VDP

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Re: New wedge owner

Post by Gasman » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:44 pm

I found a previous thread about this car dated Dec 2014:-

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=746
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Oldest known surviving wedge, hand-built 15th Pre-Production Wolseley in June 1974
Last Ambassador down the line in November 1983, Austin Ambassador VDP

Simon M
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Re: New wedge owner

Post by Simon M » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:12 pm

Thanks Martin for your information and pictures.... it's great to see it looking so lovely and to know it was well cared for. I've also found some pics of the car at shows on the web with the most recent being 2015 - again a good sign.

Of course you do take a slight risk when you buy at auction, and it has not been possible to drive the car away because of auto box problems that I wan not made aware of. I have since realised that the car has featured in a more recent thread (although the reg number was not given, so I could not have made the link) here:
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1625

Doubtless when I am able to get it back down to Dorset I may well need some advice on how best to proceed. I am determined not to let this initial problem sour the start of what I hope to be a long and happy affair!!

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Re: New wedge owner

Post by Gasman » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:14 pm

Oh. I remember that thread well and did wonder what car it all referred to. TBH I had it in my mind that he had an Ambassador completely overlooking it was all headed Princess 2200HLS! My conclusion (which may have been completely incorrect) was that the former owner's 'automatic specialist' did not know about Borg Warner boxes and I was always extremely suspicious that he might have put the wrong oil in it which is death to a BW box, as I commented in that thread although I may, of course, be wrong in that. The 6 cylinder is totally suited to the automatic box so hope you can get it sorted. You've got 3 members of the club in the Southampton area if you need any assistance...
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Last Ambassador down the line in November 1983, Austin Ambassador VDP

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Re: New wedge owner

Post by beiderbecke » Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:16 pm

Ah I remember that car well. When we had finished it I thought I'd buy it as a stablemate but after feminine pressure I thought better of it. The other wedge in the picture is my 1978 2200HLS auto in the same colour of vermillion. Look forward to seeing yours in the future.

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Re: New wedge owner

Post by Simon M » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:04 pm

It's great to find that the car is so well known to the Club.... My priority now is trying to decide where to transport the car to get the problem fixed. I tend to agree with Martin that a true specialist in this type of gearbox could not have made such a rollocks of it. The question for me is where to take it to get if sorted 'right first time'. I've had a place in Halesowen, nr Birmingham suggested (G. Whitehouse Autos). They are apparently specialists in older units, albeit this comes at a price!! Still hopefully cheaper than paying several people to do it wrong.....

A quick search also revealed this place: http://www.theautomaticgearboxcompany.c ... eyland.htm and I wondered if anyone had heard anything good or bad? Might make sense to have the car towed to one of these centres and then travel up to pick it up once fixed....

Anyway apologies if I've inadvertently broken any rules by linking/mentioning businesses... but tricky to ask peoples opinion without doing so!

I really would be appreciative of your opinions as I badly need to get this problem sorted before I am able to enjoy the car and move on to some other areas that have deteriorated over the last few years.

And yes, I hope to meet up with some of you in due course!

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Re: New wedge owner

Post by Gasman » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:53 pm

Well, to say the least, it's a bit of a bummer if you can't even drive the car away from the point of purchase. Not fit for purpose springs to mind. I hope the sale price reflected the problem. Can auction houses really get away with that? Not least I thought they had to drive them under their own steam into the auction arena.

Whatever, mechanicals are more easily repaired than body rot and XEM appears to be quite good in that respect. I am afraid I have no knowledge of a suitable repairer. Both your suggestions (and this doesn't break any rules BTW. We are a fairly relaxed group!) offer a 12 month warranty which at least is encouraging. The automatucgearboxcompany, although very expensive, are upfront about their costs although labour at £60/hour to take the box out and plus VAT means it's all going to come to an eye-watering £1k+ ish.

Rickv8 tried to obtain another gearbox, obviously without success. The chances of finding a NOS one are hen's teeth territory and the trouble with a used box is it may be duff as well.

Good luck and keep up your positivity. The end result will be worth it!
Martin
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Oldest known surviving wedge, hand-built 15th Pre-Production Wolseley in June 1974
Last Ambassador down the line in November 1983, Austin Ambassador VDP

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Re: New wedge owner

Post by beiderbecke » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:42 pm

Yes, I agree with Gasman. At the auction did they say it was a non-runner? If not I hope the price reflected a pushmobile. Years ago I dealt with a garage in Titchfields, Hants, who could fix autos but I am not sure if they are still operational. Will make enquiries...IMO I would get the car home first so you can see what you're dealing with.

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Re: New wedge owner

Post by beiderbecke » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:20 pm

Further to my recent missive, I have just found a company by the name of Auto Gearbox Specialists of Hailsham, East Sussex BN27 2EY. 01323 846666 or gearboxes@autogearboxes.co.uk or www.autogearboxes.co.uk

Might be worth a call to see if they have any experience of BW35 wedge auto boxes...

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