Project KPK

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Re: Project KPK

Post by Gasman » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:30 am

Well now you've had a bit of practice the front one should be a doddle (or maybe not). It's worth the effort though because the 18-22 style metal inserts look the business.
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Re: Project KPK

Post by Vulgalour » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:45 pm

Excellent progress here, really can't fault anything, and I'll stick my vote in for brown vinyl (not that it matters at this point). I see you had the same thought I did on the rear parcel shelf speakers, pretty sure BL planned to actually do this, there's the holes and mounting points already cut in the rear shelf, and even stamped into the board of the parcel shelf trim.

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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:41 pm

I really hope the front trims go in much easier haha :lol:

Indeed I had noticed that there is already holes for 2 normal speakers or a larger oval speaker in the centre of the rear shelf so I thought I would make use of them :D

Today I decided I would fit the new rear bumper as it has the rubber fitted and just fitted the nos fog lamps. However the brackets must be in the wrong place as there's a nice gap on one side and its pressing against the body on the other side almost :(
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Re: Project KPK

Post by rovamota » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:35 am

Those bumpers never do fit properly and on some you can see that the inner corners have be grinded out before chroming so they just fit. This was particularly evident on early cars.
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:21 pm

Oh damn, I had feared this as the original bumper looks like it had been ground alittle. I've fettled it the best that I can and it is still tight on the drivers side, though it's not touching the body I can slip a thin piece of card in between. So aslong as it's not touching the body I'll try and live with it for now. Once all this Virus situation has settled down I'll have the original re chromed and swap the rubbers :D

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Re: Project KPK

Post by Gasman » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:31 pm

You learn something new every day, I didn't know about the bumpers needing grinding. When I re-commissioned SMG I had both bumpers re-chromed so I didn't have any re-fitting problems. They were pretty expensive though although they made a good job of them.
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:13 pm

Took the Bumper off again today and gave the centre brackets a little persuasion with the grips.
Much better fit now :D

Also, what's the 3 cables out the back for. One singe orange/red or maybe even plain red cable into a single connector. And two cables red/black into a single connector. I know one is for the number plate lamp. What would the other one be for?

I've already got wiring there for the Fog lamps so I've potentially ruled that out :oops:

Excuse the mess, I need to have an entire day just tidying up around the Garage :oops:
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Re: Project KPK

Post by Gasman » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:11 pm

In no particular order:

by definition, if you can tidy the garage in a day it's obviously not in much of a mess...

it'll look good when you put that number plate on; or then, maybe not.

mine's only got one wire coming out for a single number plate light. The red/orange is for 1 number plate light. The Haynes manual wiring diagram has a second light supplied by a red/black although it's not in the manual! That still wouldn't explain a third red/black wire. I suspect your theory will be the correct one.

Knowing your obsession with originality are the reverse light/reflector lens the later sort?
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Re: Project KPK

Post by Finchyman » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:01 pm

You reminded me of when I had a P reg Wolseley (KLU33P) and a N reg Morris (JAV309N) at the same time in the 1990s. The Morris had the angled reflectors at the back and no triangle bracing panels in the rear corners under the back seat, however the Wolseley had the later lights and the braces. I think I should use my memory for more constructive things than this.....
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:24 pm

Haha It can't be too much of a mess then. Just some cardboard boxes to dispose of and bits of packaging etc :)

The rear number plate i'm just about to remake, I've already remade the front plate as I have a box of nos unipart metal plate blanks. So i used the old front as a template for drilling the holes, and then re-used the original digits, I'm going to do the same with the rear, so at least I retain the original digits :D

Ahh that makes sense regarding the cables, as I did notice there was provision on the bumper for extra number plate lamps :D

The rear lights confused me at first, as you have just mentioned I assumed there was just the early type and later type, but I've now discovered there are 3 types. There's the early type rear lights with the angled reflectors, and the later type with the flat normal reflectors. But I've only just noticed the very early units have 4 bulbs whereas the later style only have 3 bulbs. But looking at the original White car's lamps, they are the later style but must be an early revision also with 4 bulbs. So out of sheer luck the nos later units I have, have the 4 bulbs in. It appears these ones and the early ones also have the reflector as an extra tail lamp. I've noticed this style seem to be hard to come across though as the majority of the later style just have the 3 bulb slots. I'm guessing Leyland must have removed the extra tail lamp for some reason, if anyone knows?

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Re: Project KPK

Post by rovamota » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:01 pm

The extra lamp was removed for cost reasons as it was deemed unnecessary. Harris Mann told me that.
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:41 pm

Thanks Kev. Love to know all these little pieces of information :D

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Re: Project KPK

Post by Gasman » Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:27 pm

The reflector lens changed very early on half way through 18-22 production (chassis number 8971 - last 18-22 19238). I think the change from 4 bulb to 3bulb was when P2 production started. The former would explain why finchyman's May registered Morris had the early type and the P registered Wolseley registered Aug 75 i.e. one of the very last had the later type.
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:40 pm

I still haven't got a heritage certificate for the Blue Wolseley although I'm guessing it having the 1974 dated glass/trim and the early style rear lights would point to it being an early build. The White Wolseley I do have a certificate for, It was built on 1st July 1975, despatched on the 11th July to Kennings Car Mart Limited, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. And Registered on 22nd September 1975

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Re: Project KPK

Post by steveb » Fri May 01, 2020 1:18 pm

My 1976 HLS has the 4 bulb tail lights, it confuddled the MOT tester one year as it lights the rear reflector
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Tue May 12, 2020 12:28 pm

Been continuing to add parts over the last few days. Wiper linkage and motor all cleaned up and reinstalled and also repainted the wiper arms :D

Little front end shot also, ignore the Scruffy looking chap haha :lol:
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Tue May 12, 2020 7:04 pm

Fitted the windscreen today

Fitted the rubber to the glass first, then the stainless trim to the rubber, which fitted perfect to my surprise :D :lol:

Fitted to the car and almost perfect however it's not pulled in 100% perfect at the bottom passenger corner, though I suspect this is because this corner was rotten and was cut out and repaired, I'm assuming the shape is not 100% correct. However the screen is in and looks good, its 95% there i'm just being fussy again haha, i'm sure a run round with some windscreen sealer will finish off nicely, i'm sure it's recommended in the manual anyways :)

Now then, after all my complaining about windscreens in earlier posts, i was shocked today when I pulled it out to fit, see if you can notice? I'm unsure what the X stands for next to Sundym though :?:

Also the original white mirror had gone extremely brittle, so i've used the original white mounting with a spare black mirror for now :)
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Thu May 14, 2020 9:49 pm

Cleaned up the visors and fitted those along with a spare white mirror I've uncovered among some boxes :lol:
Nice LED bulb to keep heat off the interior light plastics as I know these can go brittle. Wasted half the afternoon today searching for the washer jets, which I finally found in the Blue Wolseley's Glovebox :lol: Got those fitted along with some new pipework, just waiting for a new washer pump arriving.

Hopefully get around to refitting some of the interior next once I've finished installing the new sound proofing :D
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Re: Project KPK

Post by Finchyman » Fri May 15, 2020 11:54 am

What type of LED should I look for as my current cover has a carefully placed sellotape reinforcement fitted and my new unused cover is in a protective sealed environment to preserve it.
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Fri May 15, 2020 12:47 pm

I've used these LED's, Still has the warm white look aswell :D
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Re: Project KPK

Post by Finchyman » Fri May 15, 2020 2:18 pm

Thank you, warm white on mink velour.......hopefully the 6 year guarantee doesn't outlive my car.
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Fri May 15, 2020 10:15 pm

Haha finger's crossed your car outlives the guarantee by many years :D

Fitted some fresh sound deadening today as the majority of the old stuff was ruined with damp.

Also started refitting parts of the Dash starting with the Glovebox :D
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:30 pm

Been working hard on the interior over the last week

Had the little bissel carpet cleaner out and cleaned up the whole interior, it didn't look too bad atall but the water that came out of the carpets and seats was almost jet black :oops:

As you can see I've reinstated the brown, everything is genuine except for the part of the dash with the clocks etc in, that bit is painted until I can find a genuine brown replacement. I've also used the carpet set from the spares car as the original was holed and badly worn :(
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Re: Project KPK

Post by John Steed » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:32 pm

More Pictures..... Fitted a nos gear lever gaiter aswell. Just need to repaint the Wolseley steering wheel pad, it was badly cracked so I've repaired it using a flexible filler. I've also misplaced one of my leyland branded 18-22 rubber mats so substituted a Princess branded one for now. I'm rather OCD so I'll have to locate the correct one haha :lol:
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Re: Project KPK

Post by Finchyman » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:53 pm

Never seen Princess branded floor mats. :o
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