A500KWK

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Vulgalour » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:26 pm

Ian's a good egg, if he says he wants to drive the car he'll do his level best to make it happen and he'll treat your car with respect, even if it's something he doesn't like. Fortunately, he really likes BL stuff so you'd be in very good hands. We're hoping that at some point he can have a proper drive of my Princess, the last time we tried it wasn't very happy and did its level best to make sure it lived up to all of the stereotypes it could, and then drove perfectly fine all the way home. I reckon it was stage fright.

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Fri May 10, 2019 4:34 pm

Even though the ride in KWacKers is fine I've decided it's time to get the displacers re-gassed; after all they are 35 years old. At the same time I can sort out some of the 'rusty suspension parts' that were advisories on last year's MOT, due again at the end of June. Started today on the front O/S. The displacer chamber was plentifully stocked with spiders + webs but that cleaned out nicely. I cleaned up the drop arm and bump stop bracket and they've been resprayed with best Hammerite. I really want the lower wishbone off the car to clean it up but it is well stuck in to the front bush. So plenty more WD40 and I'll have another go tomorrow along with dismantling the other side. Then, on to the dreaded rear pivot shafts....


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Re: A500KWK

Post by rovamota » Sat May 11, 2019 7:53 pm

You do know we never do concourse competitions? A shiny upper arm will not win.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Sat May 11, 2019 8:22 pm

Well I understand that & I'm certainly not into polishing the inside of the exhaust pipe. BTW you can't spell concours… It'll still look good when I've finished, like SMG:


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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Sun May 12, 2019 1:06 pm

But first I have to finish. I am having trouble getting the front displacer out on the near side. I am having extraordinary difficulty in splitting the N/S upper ball joint. I normally prefer the scissors type splitter which has never failed me before but tightening up to a force where I was concerned the splitter would explode got me nowhere. Obviously oodles of WD40 had been used so I moved to a fork type. Once I had widened the fork opening with the angle grinder to fit the width of the ball joint I used ever larger hammers with no joy. Next stage is to try some heat so I went to use Mrs Gasman's kitchen blowtorch but discovered that was irredeemably buggered. I don't have a blow torch of my own so will have to rectify that tomorrow. Machinemart here I come. If the easy front end is like this I dread to think what the rear pivot shafts are going to be like when I get round to that! Hey ho - do you ever wish you hadn't started something...


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Re: A500KWK

Post by beiderbecke » Sun May 12, 2019 7:35 pm

;) I opined my view of this problem to you this morning...

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Sun May 12, 2019 7:51 pm

Beiderbecke's opinion is my final option if heat doesn't work. That is, chop through the shaft (easy with the angle grinder) and then replace the upper ball joint on reassembly. Mind you, I've still got to split the joint but at least I can get it to someone with a multi-ton hydraulic press...
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Mon May 13, 2019 8:50 pm

Thankfully I haven't had to resort to the Beiderbecke approach. A blow torch and lots and lots of heat and some heavy bonking sorted it. So the front ones are going off for re-gassing tomorrow whilst I start on dismantling the rear which, as I've said before, I am not looking forward to.


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Re: A500KWK

Post by bigd » Mon May 13, 2019 9:04 pm

Heavy Bonking I thought by now Martin Heavy Bonking would be just a dream :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Mon May 13, 2019 10:28 pm

Well, obviously not, Derek...
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Tue May 14, 2019 4:27 pm

Bit busy doing other things today but had a couple of hours so started on the dismantling the rear suspension. I was originally just going to take the displacers off for re-gassing. However, to annoy Rovamota who doesn't like concours, I'm going to take the radius arms off, and later the cross tube when I do the other side, so I can tart them up.

So, how did I get on? I took great care with the 6 bolts attaching the cross tube mounting rubber. They all looked well rusted so I used a technique taught to me by my (automotive engineer) brother. Oodles of WD40 loosen a tiny amount, re-tighten, repeat, more wd40, repeat gradually increasing the loosening and re-tightening and having plenty of patience. Not foolproof but usually works. Anyway, that got the 4 smaller bolts out safely. The 2 bigger ones to the body were no problem at all. Unfortunately, trying to loosen the big inner nut on the pivot shaft the outer one undid. On loosening, the displacer was solid on the pivot shaft which didn't bode well. I thought I could knock the pivot shaft out (hopefully) from outside in but the bracket on the crosstube prevents that. In fact tapping the pivot shaft shows it is easily free so I just need to lock it so I can take the inner nut off. Flexie brake tube disconnected OK. Brake drum off but ran out of time to disconnect the handbrake and forgot that the displacer tube also needs disconnecting! So this side (O/S) going better than feared. I'm busy now (04.30 start tomorrow!) until the week-end so will continue then.

I'm not sure how much Ian Kennedy charges for all this labour but I would suggest it's probably good value for money. It would save a lot of hassle! Not as satisfying though.


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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Fri May 17, 2019 4:46 pm

Bit more work today. Two things have so far defeated me although I've still been able to disassemble. I can't get the little clip off that secures the handbrake cable to the back plate. Got round that by taking the back plate off! The other thing is the rebound strap securing pivots. I managed to get one undone (which is all I need) but can't get the other pin out for love nor money. Also the hydraulic pipe which I had forgotten to undo was fiendishly tight. I think I'm getting weak in old age. I jammed a spanned on one side of the union and added a 1 metre pipe extension to the other spanner for a bit of leverage. However, the dreaded pivot shaft fell out with just a bit of finger pressure...

So, just the other side to do then.


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Re: A500KWK

Post by beiderbecke » Fri May 17, 2019 7:28 pm

:D A large slice of luck with the pivot shaft then...

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Fri May 17, 2019 7:50 pm

What do you mean, luck? Sheer skill. Don't know how I do it really.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by beiderbecke » Fri May 17, 2019 9:29 pm

:lol: No...I don't suppose you do, really...

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Sat May 18, 2019 3:50 pm

Did some work this morning before domestic duties took over although forgot to take any pictures.

Started work on the N/S rear. Again all the 6 cross tube mounting fixation bolts were seriously rusted in but patience is a virtue and all out without shearing any. However, when removing the flexie brake pipe from the radius arm the bracket rivets snapped. Not paying attention and too much brute force. That's easily fixed on re-assembly though . Again I couldn't get the little handbrake cable clip off so took off the back plate. The pivot shaft is completely free but I'm blowed if I can undo the hydraulic flexi tube from the metal pipe. I ran out of time so that's the only thing to do now before I can send off the rears to the Kennedys.

Whilst looking underneath noticed that the rear silencer has blown on its rear face. At least I've got a spare system.

There's always something!
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Mon May 20, 2019 4:47 pm

Whilst the front displacers are being re-gassed I've been trying to get the N/S rear displacer out. The pivot shaft came out easily but I am completely unable to undo the connection between the flexie pipe from the displacer to the metal hydraulic pipe. I have now just about run out of ideas. My last resort will be to cut the metal pipe under the passenger floor where it should be easy to put in a compression joint. Anybody got any ideas?!

Beiderbecke popped over in Vermy, his lovely Vermillion 2200HLS, on Sunday. He told me how to remove the handbrake cable from the rear plate which I was trying to do incorrectly. Easy his way, thank you! He also challenged me to weld the little brake hose bracket that I snapped off back onto the radius arm myself. That was a laugh! I dug out my old Weldmate 140 arc welder - no MIG or TIG at Maurice Garages. It hasn't seen the light of day for 30 odd years. I never was any good and let's just say, after 30 years I haven't improved. However, an angle grinder can disguise a multitude of sins and then a bit of Hammerite over it and it still looks awful but I'll tell you one thing. It's not going to drop off.

Meanwhile, I've been getting bits cleaned off and repainted. Another job I've been putting off is treating the inside of the petrol tank. I know it's rusty and I've got a 3 part kit to clean, treat and protect it but the tank does obviously need to be off the car. I'll probably regret it but now seems an appropriate time.

So that's tomorrow's jobs sorted.


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Re: A500KWK

Post by beiderbecke » Mon May 20, 2019 7:25 pm

Put a wooden block between the left-hand spanner and the wooden plank underneath and hit the right-hand spanner smartly?

And 8 out of ten for the welding attempt...mind you I can't weld either...and I have some appropriate compression joints too...

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Mon May 20, 2019 7:41 pm

OK. What will that do? The left hand spanner is already resting on the plank which is why it's there.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by rovamota » Mon May 20, 2019 7:43 pm

Good work. It's times like these when we all wish we had a nice post lift instead of scrabbling on the floor with the car just about far enough off the ground to work under. A coat of paint hides a multitude of sins, and your Hammerite looks thick enough. I didn't know you had a welder.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by beiderbecke » Mon May 20, 2019 8:37 pm

Oh my apologies...

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Tue May 21, 2019 3:13 pm

The front displacers came back today. Ian Kennedy does provide a very efficient service.

I used my brother's Christmas present to cut through the metal suspension pipe under the passenger seat where there is plenty of space for a compression joint repair. It's a Dremel flexible drive for little cutting discs, wire brushes etc and slightly more refined than the angle grinder. Once it was off the car it was surprisingly and annoyingly easy to undo the joint. In a way it's no bad thing cutting the pipe because it is quite rusty (it was an advisory in the MoT last year) and it will be easier to clean it up. Mind you, I'll have to clean up the other side's pipe as well. I'll do that when I've got it back together and I can put the car over the pit.

Still got the petrol tank to do!


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Re: A500KWK

Post by beiderbecke » Tue May 21, 2019 8:26 pm

:P That's a good result then. What a wizzo little tool. Got a compression joint?

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Tue May 21, 2019 9:54 pm

Got a compression joint?
Haven't looked yet. I'll have a look tomorrow. There's no urgency as there's plenty to do first.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Wed May 22, 2019 6:31 pm

Finished the front N/S except final tightening (which needs to be when the car is at working height). I got the drop arm back in when I suddenly remembered the front & rear knuckle joints are different. Yes, you've guessed it, on checking I had put the N/S rear one in the front so had to take the drop arm out again and put the correct one in. At least I remembered they were different although the differences are quite subtle. Hey ho.


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