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Post by VauxPartsUK » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:53 pm

Happy days, got there eventually then. :)

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Post by Gasman » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:05 pm

Thank you Lord Leyland for the bonnet and the pain of packaging it to us. It is much appreciated. I've paypalled the packing costs today - you should already have received the bonnet cost!
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:23 pm

More little jobs done.

All the seats & carpets have been thoroughly cleaned as previously posted and have been put back in place. The rear seat belt units were jammed but to my surprise have come to life with a bit of judicous WD40 & cleaning. Likewise the release buckles, 2 of which were also jammed. One oddity is that the 2 outside belts are a bluey colour wheras the central lap belt and front belts are grey. I don't think they have been changed as the bolts were well rusted in.
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I wasn't entirely satisfied with the cleaning as there were a few stains that hadn't been completely removed so I set too to have another go on them. Bearing in mind I thought the seats were quite clean I was surprised at the colour of the water collected after the second localised cleaning....
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The rear bumper substructure has been derusted and Hammerited and put back in place. The number plate lights have been renovated albeit I'm struggling to get them properly located back in the top of the bumper...
The new number plates have arrived and are an almost exact copy of the (cracked) originals except we centrailsed the name of the garage that sold the car rather than keeping it offset (for aesthetic purposes).
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Also our replacement bonnet has arrived. The first NOS one we were given was unfortunately too rusty to be sensibly used so sourced another one from a member.
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That will be going to the paint shop shortly.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by VauxPartsUK » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:38 pm

Looking good mate, that interior was alot worse when i had it too lol alot of years of dirt :) Dont suppose you want to send me the old plate so i can stick it on me wall in the workshop :)

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Lord Leyland » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:54 am

Gasman wrote:Thank you Lord Leyland for the bonnet and the pain of packaging it to us. It is much appreciated. I've paypalled the packing costs today - you should already have received the bonnet cost!
Hi Martin,

Glad to see its arrived safely. Yes payments have both come through fine thank you. Nice to see its found a good home on an historic wedge, its been in storage for a while. Look forward to seeing the finished result hopefully at one of the shows.

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:44 pm

Although I haven't posted recently I have not been inactive.

I have been under the car cleaning and checking all the gaiters and ball joints etc which, to my surprise all looked fine to me with no evidence of any perishing that I could see. There is quite a bit of surface rust underneath and on the door sills but, as I say, this looks superficial to me but needs cleaning up, hammeriting and then waxoyling. I don't want to do that at the moment as, although it may get an advisory, there is nothing structural that means it'll fail an MoT. There is a fist sized hole in the bottom of the spare wheel well which needs welding up but again I don't think that will fail the MoT, famous last words...

The fuel gauge doesn't work so I'll have to take the sender & pump out of the tank and check that out which I'll probably do over the weekend. Also the rear washer jet doesn't work (and it isn't blocked!) although it's got a nice new wiper blade and that works fine. I've checked all the bulbs and they're all fine including the number plate lights.

I've cleaned out the 30 years of detritus in the heater plenum chamber and cleared the front washer jets which now work fine. 2 new Bosch wipers and that's another job done.
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I've taken the car out around our estate to check that everything seems to be running OK. There's a bit of pulsation on the brake pedal. The discs should be fine as they were skimmed so shouldn't be warped. However, the brakes themselves seem fine and work well stopping in a straight line. The engine tune isn't right as it's all a bit lumpy especially on the overrun. The points were hardly opeing so re-set those to 15 thou and checked the dynnamic timing. It was grossly retarded so mostly corrected that although the adjustment is up to the stops and is probably at about 14 BTDC at 1,500 revs.

So having done all that I thought I might put it in for a speculative MoT... I taped up the rust holes in the bonnet so there are no sharp edges and booked it in.
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Failed! Due to non working winker bulb and emissions which didn't surprise me at all. The bleeding winker was working last night! Anyway the garage fiddled with the carbs including having to reset the needles for some reason and it flew through the emissions on re-test. There are a few advisories because of the rust, not least the "hold" (sic) boot floor! The tester also reckons one of the steering gaiters is perished so I'll have anther look at that but at least we know it's safe and the brakes passed all the tests.
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So that's its first ever MoT out of the way. The car's already insured so just need to get it licenced and try and get some miles under its belt and do the inevitable 'snagging' exercises before we take it on a longer journey...
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Re: A500KWK

Post by rovamota » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:10 pm

Excellent news. Where did you get the extra fog lamp cover?
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:30 pm

Well spotted! Part of the Barnes collection.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:47 pm

Oops. I've just looked up the Engine Tuning Data in the Ambassador workshop manual. I had used the Princess 2 manual for the (single carburettored ) 2 litre O series which said 12 degree BTDC at 1,500 revs. The proper figure for the twin carb set up is 18 BTDC at 2,000 revs. I'll check that tomorrow!
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Re: A500KWK

Post by beiderbecke » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:41 pm

:!: It's a Rover now then...

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Tony c » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:06 pm

Well done,I'm still surprised at the lack of rust overall on this car considering its pond like storage over the years! Amazing really.A little tip regarding the heater chamber,mine was stored in a bush and all manner had lived down there,after months of being pelted in the face by debris flying through the vents I cleaned the whole system out with the trusty Henry Hoover and an air gun,then covered the vent holes for the heater in the chamber with body repair mesh shaped around them,then stuck into place with sikoflex,still allows air flow but not trees!,I suppose there should be covers of some description on them,just not on mine maybe?,the only problem now is the thin sponge that is breaking away from inside the motor/matrix,but that doesn't hurt like 15year old dried leaves so i shall live with that for now.

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:47 am

I did notice when I got home the Rover on the MoT. Hope that doesn't complicate taxing it!

As you say Tony C quite a bit of debris coming out of the heater but, from past experience, it gets less quite quickly EXCEPT for the deteriorating foam bits... On Maurice we had to have the heater out and beiderbecke replaced all the old foam with nice new stuff so got round that problem.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:14 pm

All taxed without problem! The replacement bonnet is at the painters. They wanted the original bonnet for spectroscopy so I'm running it with the very rusty NOS we were given.
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Lots of space in the A class although admittedly without any passenger seats!
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Today's been a gardening day for me but have managed to do a few routine servicing chores we hadn't yet done. The cooling system has been well washed through and now refilled with Bluecol. I am disappointed that it's still rather mucky coloured. I should have used Barr flush! The oil has been changed and didn't look too dirty at all so with a new filter as well we're OK for hopefully slightly longer trips... However, I would like to sort the non-functioning petrol gauge and low warning lamp first. We are all meeting up tomorrow so taking out the sender is one of the things on the agenda.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:48 pm

We took out the fuel gauge sender today and discovered why the low fuel light doesn't work: the sender isn't wired for one! The reason the gauge didn't work is that the float had disconnected itself and was floating free in the tank. Although we tried, we couldn't fish it out so sent Rovamota home as he said he had a spare in his shed. With the new float the fuel gauge now works fine. However, as usual, a 30 minute job took 3 people a couple of hours!

Rovamota took the car out for a spin but was a bit alarmed by the pulsing from the brakes. He thinks this may be the servo. I hadn't heard of the servo causing this sort of problem. Anyone else heard of this? Having released any vacuum the servo seems to work perfectly when you start the car...
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Tony c » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:11 pm

Hi, I haven't come across this problem myself but I do have a used servo if you don't?,

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Post by Gasman » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:19 pm

That's kind Tony C but I think we've got a spare servo if we need one but I'm not convinced that's the problem. I rechecked the discs today and can't see any signs of warping albeit only visually. There's no pulsation when I use the handbrake so am presuming the drums are not out of round. I guess it will either improve or get worse...

I've polished the car and it doesn't look too bad although there are alot of small blemishes that need to be dealt with in time. I've polished the bonnet all day but it still doesn't quite cut the mustard.
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The repainted bonnet isn't going to be ready for Gaydon so I think we might take it with the rat look.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by VauxPartsUK » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:25 pm

Another wonderful update there.... and glad its back on the road for the first time in so many years! The float wasnt attached when i had that pump out either, but didnt think it was anything to do with that to be honest. But does explain even when i put the petrol in there it made no difference lol.

Amazing job guys, you should be proud of yourselfs!

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Post by Gasman » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:13 pm

Thanks Adam. Looking forward to showing how far we have got with KWK at Gaydon this Sunday. We've only done 100 miles since getting here back on the road but all seems reasonable for the 200 mile round trip, famous last words...

Been doing some last minute things. Firstly the pulsating brakes. KWK's original discs have been reskimmed so I thought we ought to try putting those on to see if it makes any difference. Whilst doing that I also separated the disc from the hub and made sure both surfaces were meticulously clean to ensure the disc was flat on the hub.
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Unfortunately the repainted bonnet is not ready yet. Rather than the very rusty 'rat look' I've picked up KWK's original bonnet with rust holes along the front edge and put that on. After a bit of a polish it doesn't look too bad
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So, then it was road test time. Not to beat about the bush, the brakes are absolutely fine - no pulsations and everything working correctly. Job done. When I've got time I'll resplit the 1st set of re-skimmed discs from their hubs as I suspect they may not be seating correctly even though everything was properly torqued up etc and that is why we got the pulsations.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by VauxPartsUK » Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:52 pm

THats good news then, i wonder if anyone at Gaydons would know if its there old one or not... and actually believe its been stood for so long, well other then the mileage lol

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Tony c » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:25 am

Hi,I'm probably months late with my findings here but,are you aware that KWK's picture is used on flea bay a couple of times?,the 1st to advertise brake pipes the 2nd for a fridge magnet?,famous for more than the last ambo built!!.
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Post by Gasman » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:32 pm

Didn't know about the brake pipes but i already have a fridge magnet with KWK on it!
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Re: A500KWK

Post by VauxPartsUK » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:47 pm

Are there any ther updates on this, or isit all done now :) I look forward to logging on to see some :)

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Post by Gasman » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:14 pm

Since we showed the car at Gaydon annual holidays and family things have interferred with progress a bit but here's an update for you, Adam!
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I have also been rather lazy and not taken many photographs... I'll take some tomorrow!

The car ran very well up to and back from Gaydon a round trip of 200 miles/. The only problem is sometimes uneven combustion on a steady throttle and on the overrun making the car chunter a bit. I had hoped it mmight be an ignition problem but I've fitted electronic ignition and it's no better. I wonder about an induction/vacuum leak which would weaken the mixture on a light/closed throttle but have been unable to find any evidence so far. After fitting the electronic ignition I thought the performance had gone a little flat - not what I was expecting. I rechecked both the valve timing and dynamic ignition timing both of which were spot on. I then realised there was quite a bit of play on the throttle pedal. When I looked at the throttle cable connection to the carbs the bowden cable had been put through the hole in the throttle cam and then held in place with a self tapping screw, only it wasn't holding it in place. I fabricated a new trunnion, reconnected the cable and this restored the performance albeit still with the off throttle stuttering. I'm beginning to suspect the ASU...

The replacement headlining has not been an unmitigated success. We didn't use heat resistant glue and the recent hot weather has caused the lining to sag away from the moulding. It needs to be redone with the correct glue at some stage which is a bit of a shame.

Although the original AM radio works OK (for an AM radio) the casette tape reception is very poor despite cleaning the head. On SMG I have a cassette that has a wired connection to my iPhone so I can play my own playlists. This doesn't work on KWK so I'm going to put in a somewhat retro looking but modern FM unit with USB input. I've fitted an electric aerial which was a bit of a faff threading through the wires and aerial lead.

We have had the original alloys professionally refurbed in a finish that was an optional extra back in the day of glossy dark grey. We think they look smart. They have been fitted with new Goodyears from blackcircle.com. I recommend them.

The lettering on the mudflaps had been polished off presumably whilst on display at Gaydon. I have fitted some NOS ones. A simple replacement job you might think. The fixing self tappers were well rusted. I managed to get some of them out by anglegrinding a new slot but most of them were solid so I had to angle grind off the heads and then molegrip them out. That took over an hour a wheel but at least it's done. Whilst I was at it I've derusted the surface rust on the sills and black waxoyled them so they look a bit fresher now.

A member reminded me whilst we were at Gaydon that peanut butter is very good for knackered black plastic on the bumpers, air intake etc. I have thus been applying liberally and it really does seem to work
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The front valance needs derusting (only superficial thankfully) and respraying as does the slam panel which is very tatty. The sunshine roof has also faded badly which despite trying very hard I cannot polish out so that will need respraying as well. Then the paintwork only really needs detailing. There is still a hole in the boot floor which requires welding so we'll get that sorted in due course.

Whilst getting a quote from another tyre factor I drove up the M3 (it was 33.C outside) and the temperature went up the 3/4 and I realised the cooling fan had not cut in. With the heater on full and windows open the temperature could be managed. Once I'd got home and it had cooled down I checked that the fan worked fine. The thermostat is new (although that doesn't mean it can't go wrong!). I suspected the thermostat was not opening. I took it out and tested it in vitro and sure enough taking it up to boiling the thermostat did not open. Rovamota gave me another one. I then rechecked the duff one and it seemed to open perfectly! Whatever, everything seems to be tickety-boo at the moment but I'll keep a close eye on it.

We are STILL awaiting the 'new' bonnet to come from the paint shop. Hopefully we'll be able to fit that this week although I suspect the colour match with the wings will be unsatisfactory. We'll see and I'll let you now.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by VauxPartsUK » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:38 pm

Fantastic little update mate, im so happy its all gone well :) and the car looks amazing, maybe one day i can see it again in its former glory :)

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Post by Gasman » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:14 pm

At first glance KWK looks quite good:
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However, apart from the things mentioned yesterday the bottom of the 2 offside doors are rotten although the near side are not too bad.... They are not high on the list of priorities however.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by VauxPartsUK » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:40 pm

Yeh i know, im guessing thats just where its been sat for all them years in a garden, but my days it looks amazing now!

I got hold of a 1987 Cavalier Mk2 Cabriolet today actually.... Another one im going to be attached to lol

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Post by Gasman » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:08 pm

Well at least the Cavalier is one of your beloved Vauxhalls, Adam!

We got the repainted replacement bonnet back today. Trouble is it shows up, as expected, the rest of the rather faded paintwork... Just need to replace the VdP chrome strip.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by VauxPartsUK » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:55 pm

It dosent look to bad in them photos to be honest, but another job jobbed :)

And regarding the cavalier.... no where near as clean as the Ambo lol

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Post by Gasman » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:43 pm

The hot weather has not been kind to our refurbished headlining. We realised, retrospectively, that we hadn't used heat resistant impact adhesive. In the hot weather it has de-adhesed and the lining was sagging so we've had to take it out for the third time and used proper heat-resistant = up to 80 Celsius - impact adhesive this time. Hopefully third time lucky!

The other job we've done is trying to cure the uneven running on a steady throttle. I have thought it was possibly an induction leak causing a weak mixture and have been convinced , without any real evidence, that it's been the Automatic Start unit (auto choke). I had to replace a perished rubber 90. angled tube on the ASU which was the correct ID but thicker than the original. It should have had jubilee clips on it but when I replaced it I only put 1 on and did wonder if this short cut had been ill-advised.

To take the ASU off you have to remove the carbs so instead I undid a jubilee clip to feed it over the rubber tube. That was no problem. Trying to get the clip back together enough for the screw thread to catch was a different matter. After MUCH cursing I finally did it.

The running is now unquestionably heaps better. It's not perfect. I took it on an 80 mile round trip down the A272 today to pick someone up with no problems at all. Indeed, despite the tourists going at snail speeds, a most enjoyable trip. One thing I did notice was that the econometer is now more towards the red end. I would have thought reducing an induction leak would have had the reverse effect... Bit more investigation required.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Tony c » Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:12 pm

With reference to the econometer being into the red,I've tried everything to get mine to work,but alas it just goes all British Leyland on me and either goes on all out strike or budges just enough to convince me things may change!!...so it just stays in the red

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:32 am

LOL. That's worse than ours. I have to say a completely useless instrument.

BTW Tony C I never got back to you about a fog lamp switch. I did have a good look round but unfortunately cannot find one. I'm going to Beaulieu autojumble for the first time next month; I've been promising myself I'd go for a good 30 years now! I'll keep my eyes out!
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Tony c » Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:50 pm

Thanks Martin,very kind of you.

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:46 am

Along with the drip rail gutter trim I got for SMG (see separate 18-22 series posting) I have acquired a Chromed Ambassador badge which were only on earlier Ambos; they changed to a 0.5p cheaper semi-matt silver ones for later models. No-one will notice them except me and afficiandos will say it is not the correct one but hey ho when I saw the chrome ones on another Ambo at Gaydon I knew they were for me and it now matches the chromed albeit a bit worn VandenPlas badge!
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In the photos they don't look much different!
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I also managed to get a thrust race as the one on KWK sounds a bit noisy to me so it'll be good to have one in the spares cupboard just in case. They also had an airfilter for the ASU which looks like a hen's teeth article to me so I got that as well. I thought I had found you a fog light switch TonyC as it was 'on the computer' but when he rummaged through the relevant box it wasn't there so sorry about that (but I did think of you!).
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:22 pm

Would you Adam & Eve it. No sooner have I bought the thrust race for a rainy day than another appears on eBay. I've been looking for some time and there's been nothing. What's more it's cheaper than I paid albeit it's only a QH part.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by VauxPartsUK » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:40 pm

Badges are a nice touch nice one :) Any chance you want to sell the old back ones, would be good to stick on me tool box at work kinda thing :)

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:49 pm

I hadn't forgotten Adam!
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Vulgalour » Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:55 pm

For a VDP, the chromed badge makes more sense, VDP was all about extraneous fluff and ornamentation, that's why they put that daft chrome strip on the bonnet that spoiled an otherwise smart facelift. You can get badge faces hydrodipped if you can find someone REALLY good at it who understands you just want the face done, not the whole badge. So I am told, at any rate.

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Tony c » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:01 pm

Thanks for trying anyway Martin,100% for effort,the search continues
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:28 pm

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They're on their way, Adam!
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Re: A500KWK

Post by VauxPartsUK » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:36 am

Hi guys, got them this morning, many thanks, will go straight on my tool box :)

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Tony c » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:41 pm

Martin,I have a vague recollection of you struggling with the ASU on the Ambassador.
Today I spoke with Terry Miller about the illusive bits for mine and he happened to mention he has a brand new ASU in his stocks,just thought I would pass on the information,
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:29 pm

Thanks for that Tony
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Re: A500KWK

Post by MrAmbassadorMan » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:43 pm

I had a perfect working ASU fitted to my car, started and warmed the car up perfectly. Unfortunately it wouldn't pass the MOT with it fitted due to emission problem couldn't get it to pass emission test. Ive long since given up on ASU and got a Manuel choke fitted.

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:17 pm

KWK blotted its copy book on the way back from Brooklands yesterday. The engine suddenly went onto 3 cylinders, then 2 and finally cut out. This on a busy M3 although at least it had stopped raining by then and it was light. Stopped on the hard shoulder and opened the bonnet, wiggled the HT leads and coil leads as you do and whilst doing that noticed that the fuel filter was empty. The petrol gauge said quarter full... I have run it much lower than that, albeit not for a few months now so the likely explanation was duff fuel pump. I thought I was going to have to call recovery but tried starting again; the filter filled immediately so set off again at a more fuel-efficient 50. It was fine for about 10 miles when, going up a hill, it did the same thing. Again pulled onto the hard shoulder and waited a minute and restarted without problem for another 10 miles when going up another hill with Winchester services nearly at the top. I just made it into the services and thought I'd put in a couple of Gallons in case the fuel gauge was faulty. Nearly £1.40 a litre for goodness sake! Anyway with that I made the 10 miles home although when I opened the bonnet the filter was again empty.

Did a bit of tinkering today. The flow rate from (and indeed into) the filter is pathetic and also rather rusty coloured. Unfortunately I couldn't get the rear wheel off to make access a little easier to the pump. The paint on the refurbed wheels makes the fit to the hub extremely tight so I need a hub extractor to get the wheel off and I couldn't immediately find it so I went onto other things. First thing was to make the mixture leaner through the ASU. I hadn't realised until a few days ago that there was a separate ASU mixture screw. The workshop manual doesn't mention it! Doing that has made it run much less rich and smoother on choke (ie when the ASU is working) so I am hopeful that this is a marked improvement. Also one of the fan belts was squealing so I tightened up the alternator and PAS belts which took a surprisingly long time. I then found my hub puller to get the wheel off but had done enough by then so I'll look at that later in the week when our guests have gone home. Either the pump is knackered or the pick up is gunged up with rusty bits. Probably a bit of both.

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Princess1800s » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:16 pm

I enjoy updates regarding how the car is performing and the niggles that arise from time to time, thanks for posting.

That ASU does seem to come in for a bit of stick! I remember having problems with one on a XJ6 Series 2 and after fiddling with it I just gave it up as a bad idea and converted to manual choke.

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:28 pm

On Friday I took the sender unit out of tank draining off 15+ litres of clean fuel in the process - no rusty bits apparent. I disconnected the pump to test it in vitro which seemed fine. It pumped an ice cream pot of white spirit back into its bottle almost instantly. The course filter at the end of the pick up was not dirty. So that was all put back together and into the tank and sealed with new fuel hosing. I went on a short test run and all seemed absolutely fine. Yesterday was my birthday so had been designated a no-car day. Today, however, I've taken it on a longer test run including some high speed motorway work up hill and have been unable to invoke any fuel starvation. My ADO71 test engineer brother has reminded me that they originally had lots of problems with fuel tank vacuum from non vented caps and even though I had forgotten that & didn't test that on the way back from Brooklands there was certainly no vacuum when I filled up with the world's most expensive 2 gallons on the M3. I had put on a correct OE cap when we re-commissioned as the one it had on when we bought it was non-vented and there was a very large vacuum in the tank when I first filled the car up even though there was no fuel starvation apparent.

Anyway I got home today, looked at the fuel filter which was completely full and then I noticed the fuel pouring out of the overflow pipe of the O/S carburettor. Exactly the same problem I've got on SMG at the moment and a diametrically opposed problem to the one I had on KWK on Sunday! I also have the concern that I haven't really done anything to explain why the fuel wasn't getting through on the M3. I've only got a week and a half to sort this before the NEC so will do some more tinkering tomorrow which wouldn't be a problem if I hadn't contracted another bleeding head cold with accompanying cough.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by bigd » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:54 pm

Martin I had a similar fault with my ambo with the apparent fuel starvation and traced it back to a faulty engine oil sender unit ,even though the dashboard light wasnt illuminated it was found to be the trouble.

Its all got to do with safety side of things if youre in a crash [god forbid] and the engine stops but the ignition is on ,the fuel pump stops too because the engine isnt running which opens the oil pressure switch and stops electric to the fuel pump

Thats why you can crank the engine on the key and get fuel out of the pipe but if you try and do it with the wire off the engine oil pressure sender IT should not pump

But I am sure you already new this good luck with it

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Re: A500KWK

Post by VauxPartsUK » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:24 pm

Good update guys, i thought id better pop on and see how the show was etc :) not so much fun on the way home though, hopefully nothing to serious :) Cars amazing you guys done it proud!

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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:56 pm

I've had a stinking cold so have not been doing anything with cars for the past week. However, as I'm now starting to feel a little better I rechecked the fuel supply which seems fine and the carburettor is no longer overflowing. I don't think the fuel starvation is anything to do with the oil pressure switch which is new but we'll see (but thanks for the tip bigD). As I haven't found any definite fault I am a little nervous about reliability going up to the NEC next week. To see if I could provoke any misbehaviour I filled up with petrol and took it for a 70 mile Motorway thrash without any problems. Not sure there's anything more I can do for the time being except wait and see what happens.
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Re: A500KWK

Post by Gasman » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:43 pm

Rovamota asked me for a photo of the rear Ambassador badge. This reminded me that the 5th door on KWK did not fit well on the O/S albeit the N/S is good. Also pressing the opening button has become increasingly a bit unreliable. So I took off the catch & lubricated everything. Whilst there was no catch I adjusted the rubber stops so the door is much better adjusted. When the button was pushed there was too much free movement within the operating mechanism but there doesn't seem to be any available adjustment so I inserted a rubber sleeve to take up the slack and now it all seems fine and hopefully a permanent repair (but we'll see). That took me at least a couple of hours for goodness sake but it was a nice day so not too traumatic.

The car's had a full polish so looks reasonable for next weekend except for the faded sunroof and the front valance which needs respraying.

Then it was on to gardening....
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